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    Posted: 13-August-2019 at 15:11
‘The Grove 1977-1979’

His ‘Oasis’ school hop had been swiftly followed by a couple of years
counting the days, hours and minutes to the Grove Social Club in St.
Paul’s, Raheny.
His pinkish ID card ever at the ready, Junior Flinter on sentry duty at the
door, waving him in with a friendly gesture of his big rugby hand.
D.J. Cecil up there on the stage.
His turntable to the fore.
With dozens of young heads standing in the hall nearby, on up the front
or way down the back, their grandfather shirts hanging from baggy blue
jeans, all trying to look absolutely, unconventionally and effortlessly
cool.
With carefully combed, long flowing hair, pony-tails and shaggy big mops.
Hands in pockets, or simply holding on to glass bottles of Fanta or Coke.
No alcohol then.
Loving the long slow dances after lively head-banging sets -
If he was lucky.
To the mellow strains of James Taylor’s “Carolina in my mind” or Kris
Kristofferson’s “Lovin’ her was easier” than anything he had ever done before.
With beautiful Bernie B.
Or a year later on,
with hazel-eyed, long blonde-haired, Irene, clothed in Shree.
During the course of a night.
Should they happen to be there.
All very exciting on Saturday evenings and Sunday mornings.
But a terrible thing all the same if you were dreaming you were awake
on the stage and just about to arrive before you ever had left.

Edited by Taylor - 13-August-2019 at 15:22
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Originally posted by Taylor Taylor wrote:



   
   
   ‘The Grove 1977-1979’

His ‘Oasis’ school hop had been swiftly followed by a couple of years
counting the days, hours and minutes to the Grove Social Club in St.
Paul’s, Raheny.
His pinkish ID card ever at the ready, Junior Flinter on sentry duty at the
door, waving him in with a friendly gesture of his big rugby hand.
D.J. Cecil up there on the stage.
His turntable to the fore.
With dozens of young heads standing in the hall nearby, on up the front
or way down the back, their grandfather shirts hanging from baggy blue
jeans, all trying to look absolutely, unconventionally and effortlessly
cool.
With carefully combed, long flowing hair, pony-tails and shaggy big mops.
Hands in pockets, or simply holding on to glass bottles of Fanta or Coke.
No alcohol then.
Loving the long slow dances after lively head-banging sets -
If he was lucky.
To the mellow strains of James Taylor’s “Carolina in my mind” or Kris
Kristofferson’s “Lovin’ her was easier” than anything he had ever done before.
With beautiful Bernie B.
Or a year later on,
with hazel-eyed, long blonde-haired, Irene.
During the course of a night.
Should they happen to be there.
All very exciting on Saturday evenings and Sunday mornings.
But a terrible thing all the same if you were dreaming you were awake
on the stage and just about to arrive before you ever had left.




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Hey Taylor, super stuff. More of this please ...
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Great vivid vision of Grove happenings 👍👍
May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride.



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Thank you! 😃👍

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Welcome back Taylor.  Good to see some old heads back on the site.
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Very prosey-poetic Taylor. I like it. Did you write it recently or back in the day?
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Thanks PM!
I wrote an original piece ca. 1999 / 2000!
Some 20 years ago!!! 😃👍☘️
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Thanks, VJ!
Glad to be back 😃👍☘️
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Most of the poems I have written start with –"There was a young girl from Nantucket..." Tongue 
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Originally posted by Pogue Mahoney Pogue Mahoney wrote:

Most of the poems I have written start with –"There was a young girl from Nantucket..." Tongue 



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Must be an age thing because my memories of the Mount Prospect Grove in 1972/4 are becoming clearer and clearer.

Can see myself parking the motorbike outside and heading in to the hall as clear as if I'd done it last week instead of 47 years ago.
May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride.



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Hard to believe Pat but you were after my time in The Grove. My Grove days ended when I got married in 1971. For some strange reason my wife didn't want me to go anymore. There was a motorcycle gang there during my time, mainly Nortons and BSAs with a few Honda 50s and Suzukies thrown in for good measure. The Brendanfella always wanted to fill the end wall with a biker mural but Cecil didn't go for it.
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The St. Pauls groves were not as exotic as you guys had down in Mt. Prospect but we loved them.  I think the documentary covered it rather well, in that grovers (of my vintage) treated Cecil with the same awe and affection as the "old days" and also as "one of us", whereas by the late 80s/early 90s, he was the "grand old man of rock and roll".  There is a noticeable gap for late 70s/early 80s grovers in the documentary - and the music of that time is slightly skipped - but it is what it is.  In the late 70s there was a mixture of late 60s stuff, lots of early 70s rock and the new wave stuff was also coming down the line (I always noticed that Cecil never played Ska stuff - just alternative rock like Stranglers, SLF, Buzzcocks, Ruts, Simple Minds, Siouxsie etc.,).  By the early 80s, he did play stuff like Duran Duran, Human League and Japan, which I completely hated at the time but it has grown on me.

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Good post Mel, succinctly covers a lot of the Grove period ... and the documentary. Must watch it again actually: documentary/32A/documentary again, pass a few hours very nicely ...
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You are right Mel, Cecil was not a big fan of Ska but before Ska/Reggae/Bluebeat was adopted by Skinheads there were a few popular artists on the charts like Johnny Nash (Hold me Tight),  Desmond Dekker (Israelites/Shantytown 007) and maybe even a tad of early Prince Buster (Al Capone) that I think got an odd spin in the old Grove.  I was all over town in those days so might be mixing the Grove up with other places.
It was when groups like The Specials came along with the Boot Boys Rule, Soccer Hooligan, Braces and Doc Marten culture that everything went downhill. I remember thinking Skinhead fashion looked really cool at the time but never went in that direction.
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Interesting Pogue, I am a big fan of ska/bluebeat/reggae etc, but I had to keep those tastes under wrap in the old days when I was a "hippie". Wasn't cool at all to express any liking for that stuff. I was at a house party where some skins had been invited, and got into a tit-for-tat with some skinhead - he kept puttin Johnny Nash on the stereo; despite the fact I didn't mind it at all I kept going up, taking that off and putting on my Mountain record. Then he would take that off etc etc. Luckily my girlfriend at the time was with me and she prevented me getting into a nasty situation ...

Gas when you think of it. I remember the skinheads were a big thing from the very early 70s Poguey ...
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My years in Mount Prospect covered 1972-1975 and a lot of the great bands were still on the go and some amazing new artists coming through in the early 70's.

There was definitely a hippy groove in my day reflected in the colours people wore in their clothes.

I never heard any reggae/ska being played in my day and wasn't complaining as I'm not a great lover of that type of music.

Although a couple of great reggae type trax got my attention, the Israelites, Double Barrel, Monkey Business, I Can See Clearly Now, Baby Come Back but I never heard them in the Grove.

Ah jaysus, I'd love a good rocking night in the old Grove again.

"You never miss a good thing till it's gone" 😢😢
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I was Grove-ing 71 to 75 in Mt. Prospect as you lads know. Never heard a ska/reggae-type record played in those days, don't think it would have gone down well...
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Talking about missing the Grove nights Pat, any further thoughts on coming across for the "final" reunion night on 30 November?
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