Led Zeppelin
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Topic: Led Zeppelin
Posted By: Floyd
Subject: Led Zeppelin
Date Posted: 08-September-2009 at 20:45
THE band. THE rock sound. The best guitar riffs. True Grove sound. True rock.
They deserve a thread of their own...the band who inspired so many bands who followed. A band
who sound and play like a band. They derive influence from so many before them.
Blues,folk,hard rock,soul, rap (! The Crunge?),reggae (D'yer Mak'er?),speed or even punk
(Communication Breakdown?) even 1950's rock n' roll (South Bound Saurez).
Above all,Zep defined guitar rock,with some of the most memorable and killer riffs in music
history.
Jimmy Pages playing (who could strum or fingerpick a folk dirge as well as rock out a riff)
is complimented only to well with Robert Plants vocals,a voice which roars when needed or
soothes like a sleeping pill.
Jimmy Page insisted on John Paul Jones joining this supergroup,having worked with him in his
session days. His playing is not to be underestimated,which can be clearly heard on songs
like The Lemon Song or Babe I'm Gonna Leave You,as well as his pastorl earthy piano and
keyboard layers on No Quarter.
John Bonham was suggested by Plant,a fellow northener,who,as well as other feats,used two
sticks in each hand for the recording of Four Sticks (hence the name) and is a true
powerhouse drummer,mixing his fill ins (not using the same tom tom twice for his fills).
A true band-probably the greatest rock band there ever was.
Air your Zep appreciation here! They deserve it!
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Posted By: Grovegirl
Date Posted: 08-September-2009 at 20:58
Ok...Airing my appreciation!
Might not be up on all the facts and figures but I Love Led Zeppelin!
Nicely done, Floyd. 
GG
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Posted By: Chris Rooney
Date Posted: 08-September-2009 at 21:03
Never got to see them but got the next best thing in Page & Plant in the Point 20th July 1995, second night. Fantastic gig, Zeppelin songs all the way through! Setlist: Egyptian pharoah's intro Celebration day Bring it on home Custard pie Going to California No quarter The battle of Evermore Gallows pole Since I've been lovin' you Whole lotta love Friends Four sticks Kashmir Black dog The song remains the same
Not too bad!!
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Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 08:25
From a drumming perspective Bonhan was probably one of the most under-rated drummr ever.
Some of his "fills" are still being studied to this day.
Unfortunately with the equipement used then , the finer points were lost in the "meelay"of sound that was Zep, and it's only with todays gear that the fills can be isolated and heard in their full glory.
Rock On
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Posted By: Chris Rooney
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 09:35
Even though they have this technology available nowadays not many, if any, can touch John Henry Bonham!

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Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 10:56
Nice thread Floyd.
Have to say that over the years Zeppelin were probably my favourite of the lot. I've an eclectic taste,always had... ( Remember picking up an Echo and The Bunnymen album in Sound Cellar with hair half way down my back and attracting several comments from staff and customers alike.)...but for me there was never and will never be a band with the range of talents and the ability to squeeze every last riff,note and beat out of a classic rock or folk song like Zeppelin.
Just think that the raw sound Zeppelin produced has never and will never be bettered. Never seemed to write a song to a " formula ", just seemed to kick it off and when it was finished,it was finished.
For me, Page is the best of the lot where the guitar is concerned.As Floyd mentioned,his versatility and his desire and willingness to record the soft folk tunes as well as the legendary riffs which have become part of rock folklore, How Many More Times, Communication Breakdown, Kashmir, What is and What Shall Never Be and of course, Whole Lotta Love covince me that he is a musician in total control of his art.
Having said all that,if you ask me to name my five favourite albums and you won't find a Zeppelin album in there.Just that from their first to their last album there is a constant level of performance that no other band has been able to match.
Was at the Page / Plant gig in the Point and also saw Plant in the Olympia couple of years ago and he still has it.
Still not sure if I'd be on for a " reformation " tour though.
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Posted By: Sister1
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 15:12
Led Zep were the business alright. A few thoughts to add the above:
- I was always led to believe they did not release singles (in the UK at any rate), so Cecil must have got some imports to play Zeppelin at the Grove - anyone know if this is correct?
- Zeppelin had more than their fair share of bad luck and the tragic - Plants car crash in Greece in 1975 which still gives him ankle trouble today, the death of Plants son in 1977 and finally John Bonhams death in 1980. The tabloids used to blame this on Page's occult leanings that brought bad karma....
- I saw Page and Plant play together twice in 1995 and 1998, both in the old point. First was 'unledded' which was great and second was for 'Walking into Clarksdale' & yielded live versons of Black Dog and Rock & Roll.
- Zeppelin went from the late 60s to 1980 covering blues, punk, rock, reggae and more. It was the variety that kept them alive and only for Bonham's death, could have go on well into the 80's.
- And yes, they did play the original live aid in 1985. But they are not on the DVD I hear you cry - yes, but they played Philadephia with Phil Collins on drums and were under rehearsed, so Page asked that it be left out of the official DVD. I remember seeing the performance at the time and it was quite poor.
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Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 15:13
Everytime I hear a Led Zep song I think of the grove and my house on a Sunday morning. My brother was and still is a huge Led Zep fan, so every Sunday morning he would blast all his LP's on his record player all over the house and that how I grew to love them too.
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Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 15:37
There were a few " Japanese Import " Zeppelin singles I remember Peter.
Think I have a few of them at home. Our resident expert,Mel should be able to tell us more.
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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 18:45
Led Zeppelin.
My friend from the Grove 1972 -1975, Ken Ridgeway, was big into Zeppelin. I actually have a poster he painted way back then of Zeppelin.
Whereas I was not an avid fan of Zeppelin, they were a soundtrack to those early years in the Grove.
Every night back in the "original" Grove, Led Zeppelin were played.
The problem in those days was that so much good music was played, you wanted to buy all the bands/artists albums but money forced you to decide what you wanted to buy and so I prioritised what I wanted.
And even today I prefer to listen to collections of Zeppelin's music rather than have all their albums.
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Biker Pat
Grove 1972-1975
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Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 21:03
Rolo wrote:
There were a few " Japanese Import " Zeppelin singles I remember Peter.
Think I have a few of them at home. Our resident expert,Mel should be able to tell us more. |
There were quite a few of those Japanese Imports alright but they werent all like that.
I have a few of the Japanese ones but my 'Black Dog' single has 'made in the UK' on it and I think my 'Rock n' Roll' single came from the States. I'm 99% that the 'Led Zeppelin' acoustically EP, which has 'Thats the Way', 'Going to California' and 'Stairway' on it was originally only released in Australia.
I vaguely remember hearing something about it being 'Atlantic' that released the singles and that Zeppelin werent happy about it but I'm not 100% sure about this.
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Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 14-September-2009 at 18:00
I too remember them saying they weren't happy with Phil Collins playing and didn't want the
performance aired,but I remember the whole thing was shown in 1995,sort of a 'retrospective'
look back type of thing. And there it was! The Zep performance! We watched it in our local
cos we were going to the Point gig a few weeks later.
Thing about this band for me was the whole song,not just the lyrics or the guitar riff,but
everything else-the bass,drums,keyboards,and later when I started playing in bands myself,the
recording and production work,the layers,multi-tracking and overdubs. The WHOLE SONG was an
aural piece to me. I marvelled at how these guys could WRITE these songs,as well as put them
down as a finished piece.
I remember being on a train from Cork listening to the Song Remains The Same live album,and
the title track was on. Everything was building,tempo filling,crescendo
rising,guitar,bass,vocals,drums-all guns blazing. I was sitting there,almost sweating,fingers
dug into the seat,feeling every note,little hairs and goosebumps everywhere,when it climaxed
to that finish,I could finally breathe. It is followed by the Rain Song,which,like an anti-
dote to the fever I had just gone through,this beautiful song soothed and calmed me right
back down,easing me and settling the frenzy I had just felt.
Getting a little carried away with myself maybe, but I thought if they can fire me up like
that,then with a completely different song,take me right back down,then THAT is a powerful
thing they have.
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Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 15-September-2009 at 07:34
Stay away from those mushrooms Floyd
Do ya hear me !!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Posted By: Chris Rooney
Date Posted: 15-September-2009 at 13:11
Mushrooms? Sounds like he was having a ham shank!

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Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 15-September-2009 at 15:31
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Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 16-September-2009 at 17:50
What are your views on the Song Remains The Same movie concert???
Was probably 16 when I saw it first and was glued from start to finish. The thought of seeing
the band play was great,but then the 'cinematic' pieces came on and it seemed to me to be
really trippy.
Mature appraisal of it now has somewhat diminished,as it's concert footage are by no means
comparable to todays standards,and the so called cinematic pieces in it were criticised since
as being the bands own excuses for their own fantasies (but was probably the whole point) but
it's still worth a look.
I got the double DVD with loads of extras last Christmas which re-kindled some affection for
it.
Your thoughts on this??? Did you have gangs around to your house to watch it with curtains
closed?
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Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 17-September-2009 at 08:18
Zep were on thre Biography Channel last night
A whistlestop history but interesting all the same
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Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 17-September-2009 at 12:31
Floyd wrote:
What are your views on the Song Remains The Same movie concert??? |
Love it Martin.
In the old days when there wasn't the opportunity to see every band produce a " Bells and Whistles " DVD this was perfection.Saturday night down the Fairview Cinema a couple of times a year to see it was a treat and a half.
From Jimmy's little skip at the start of Rock and Roll to the violin bit in Dazed and Confused,to the haunting melodies of No Quarter to the raw power of the end of Whole Lotta Love to finish the show,this was magnificent from start to finish when I first saw it and for still is today.
Don't have an issue with the fantasy sequences as it's really all about the music.
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Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 19-September-2009 at 00:58
Rolo wrote:
Floyd wrote:
What are your views on the Song Remains The Same movie concert??? |
Love it Martin.
In the old days when there wasn't the opportunity to see every band produce a " Bells and Whistles " DVD this was perfection.Saturday night down the Fairview Cinema a couple of times a year to see it was a treat and a half.
From Jimmy's little skip at the start of Rock and Roll to the violin bit in Dazed and Confused,to the haunting melodies of No Quarter to the raw power of the end of Whole Lotta Love to finish the show,this was magnificent from start to finish when I first saw it and for still is today.
Don't have an issue with the fantasy sequences as it's really all about the music. |
This sums it up for me. 
Having said that, havent watched the Movie in years but great, great Movie/Album. 
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Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 19-September-2009 at 19:11
I love some of the versions on this album,especially No Quarter,Rain Song and
Since I've Been Loving You. It honestly blew me away to see (spoiler ahead!)
Jimmy climbing up the mountain to the hermit to see the hermit himself growing
younger into Jimmy himself! Then that (rather primitive by todays standards)
effect of the staff waving and changing colour-fantastic!
Stairway to heaven version is still cracking.
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Posted By: ShortHairHippie
Date Posted: 20-September-2009 at 01:14
I love Jimmy Page's guitaring on "since I've been loving you",pure raw sexual energy !
and at the start of the concert,you can feel the buzz in the crowd,just before "rock and roll" starts,Bonzo's drumming...so much power and energy
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Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 21-September-2009 at 20:37
I remember my older sister playing Stairway in the kitchen years ago and she delighted in saying the name in a slightly show off manner.
'Led Zeppelin?' I said. 'He's dead,isn't he???' was my response,which was probably the rationale of most newbie rockers.
All the same time that stairway to heaven played backward nonsense started too. It seemed back then that something that great and fantastic couldn't be 'natural' and had to have some darker connotations. (OK,Jimmy Page had an interest in the occult,he bought Aleister Crowleys house and read his books,an interest passingly shared by Plant,and lamented in the song 'Nobody's Fault But Mine' as an expression of sorrow for getting into it in the first place) but everyone believed there was 'something more' to the song,probably because it was so good.
Did anyone ever hear any 'messages' playing this song backwards?
(apart from those from your dad for ruining his stylus...)
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Posted By: Chris Rooney
Date Posted: 21-September-2009 at 22:00
Sure isn't Leonard Skynyrd dead too!!!!!!!

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Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 22-September-2009 at 13:55
Depends on what you inhaled
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Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 22-September-2009 at 21:32
Hehehe.....good one Finno
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