what you got for Christmas
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Topic: what you got for Christmas
Posted By: ShortHairHippie
Subject: what you got for Christmas
Date Posted: 25-December-2008 at 19:44
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I thought this might be an interesting thread if any
fellow Grovers wanted to share what presents they got, and if they were happy with the present(s) ?..I'll start my sister got me a new turntable.I was surprised as mine went to vinyl heaven years ago,and I never got around to replacing it.I had great fun digging out my 7" singles,which were stored in my parents,and have'nt seen the light of day in 8 years or so,maybe longer, judging on how white with dust the sleeves were,and the buzz I got listening to so many old classics really made my Christmas... 
hope all ye other Grovers are having a great Xmas  hope to see ye all on Sunday  ------------- upon us all,a little rain must fall |
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Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 25-December-2008 at 19:48
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I got a voucher and smelly's ( I need a new coat )
A lot of Louis Veetoin around the house with the girls ------------- THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BUT IT'LL PISS YOU OFF FIRST |
Posted By: joey the lips
Date Posted: 25-December-2008 at 20:48
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I got 2 Bob Dylan tickets ------------- You can checkout anytime u like but u can never leave |
Posted By: monarch
Date Posted: 26-December-2008 at 00:24
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Mine seems to be a Rory Gallagher
and Pink Floyd Christmas.From three different sources I got books and DVD's of Rory and Floyd. P.S. Pogue I remembers you from my days @ The Grove we must have hung around the same part of the hall. ------------- There is a crack in everything ...... that's how the light gets in |
Posted By: DAYO
Date Posted: 26-December-2008 at 15:45
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I got tickets for the Eagles from my baby (27) Just for herself and meself so cute. Little girls what can I say ------------- Dayo Grov'in 70 - 76 |
Posted By: Pogue Mahoney
Date Posted: 26-December-2008 at 20:23
I have to say you do look familiar. I never moved far away from the stage because I wanted to be close to Cecil. |
monarch wrote:Posted By: Uncle Arthur
Date Posted: 26-December-2008 at 23:40
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I am joining the modern word - I got my first ipod for xmas. Amazing concept! Have spent the last 2 days loading cds onto my laptop (still only about 20% of the way through my cd collection never mind the vinyl) before I create playlist to download. I am finding stuff in my collection I haven't listened to since I first bought it, and stuff I forgot I had - a great exercise. ------------- UA "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity but an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" |
Posted By: Evangeline
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 01:38
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Lush Stuff, silver necklace, Dr Who series 4 boxset, mp3 speakers, stick on Gromit the dog for my car. Jen ------------- "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!" |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 02:03
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Swear to God, it's the small things that count most. Most of yiz know that my older fella is 15 ....... it's a nightmare trying to find something to surprise him with at Christmas. Managed to pick up a couple of tickets to Premier League Darts in Belfast in February for him...........like meself he's a Phil Taylor nut Should have seen his reaction...........best present you could wish for. ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY
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Posted By: Pogue Mahoney
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 09:44
| I got a big box of coal again |
Posted By: grainne_witch
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 09:58
| Guess what I got Ronan???? A sat nav!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Evangeline
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 15:45
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Very nice Grainne. You'll never get lost again! My dad got a nice gift from Mam. A turntable for converting vinyl to mp3. I'll be heading over there with my vinyl collection in the New Year! Jen ------------- "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!" |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 17:08
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You're joking G, a year too late Make sure it gets you to Radio City nice and early tomorrow. |
Posted By: eejit91
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 17:16
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I got slippers!!! What more can you ask for! ------------- "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better." |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 17:22
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Not a lot T. Sure isn't it all about seeig the excited faces on the kids,particularly the younger ones. |
Posted By: BlackMagicWoman
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 18:55
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I got a foot spa and a facial,mmmm lovely ! A book about ghosts and the
rocky horror cd. brilliant! My little 1 got far too much, have no room to store everything! Maybe it's just me but I think they get far too much. I gave 4 bags of toys hardly used and bags of clothes she had grown out of to the social workers I work with and they were toys she will never miss unless I had shown her before and then she would have been crying for them all coz she loves them all soooo much.  Don't get me wrong, it is great
to see the look on my daughters face when she receives these presents, but ya know.... |
Posted By: grainne_witch
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 22:10
| I know what you mean. A friend was trying to find some high school musical thing for her daughter but had left it too late. My 12 year old son said he had it and would give it to her. He brought it down and it was still wrapped in plastic - a present from last Christmas never opened! |
Posted By: grainne_witch
Date Posted: 27-December-2008 at 22:12
Never too late!! Very funny picking a voice for it. So Sean from Ireland is my new best friend!!! |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 28-December-2008 at 01:40
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I did pretty good, 9 DVD Alarm box set, Arsenal mug, a ton of golf related stuff, including some personalised golf balls, and putting practice mat (which to be fair, i'm not playing long but my putting is bloody dire), to name a few items. :)
------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 28-December-2008 at 11:09
XBox 360, a Dungeons and Dragons "deluxe" edition Players Handbook, and a cooling pad for my laptop - when I heard I was getting a "cooling pad", I thought we were building an extension! 
------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 28-December-2008 at 11:48
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Trip to Prague for Valentines. Books and Dvds (like i'm running short of these!)
------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 28-December-2008 at 13:45
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Everything I hinted for plus a few surprise's thrown in
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 28-December-2008 at 14:21
Welcome to the club, all you need to do is invest in an xbox live subscription for all your online gaming needs, then you can kiss the remainder of your life goodbye. :D ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Evangeline
Date Posted: 28-December-2008 at 15:59
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The Alarm boxset sounds good, and you can never fall out with a spare set of balls. An Arsenal mug? Since when were you into footy? Jen ------------- "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!" |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 29-December-2008 at 16:10
Not gone near the Alarm set, although i intend to start watching the late 90s gigs tonight. As for the balls, they got a good whacking (o'er missus) at Elm Green earlier this morning. I still suck but at least the balls are going in the general direction of the putting surface, so improvement is at least happening.
Casual fan m'lady. Was quite interesting as herself is a Villa supporter. And the best we could muster up was a 2-2 draw? Embarrassing. ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Sinead
Date Posted: 30-December-2008 at 13:48
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I got a foot spa and a tool box from the kids and a new set of pots for the kitchen from my parents (I am dumbstruck!) ------------- Sinead Life may suck at times but you still have to get out of bed and get on with it! |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 30-December-2008 at 14:29
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I got Blanchardstown Vouchers (I can buy what a want) Socks smellys The Darkknight/Batman, Hellboy, BlackHawk down on Blu-ray(But I don't have a Bluray player to play them on.. Oh I got a PS3 from Cassandra too and a few games.. Oh so thats why she got me Blu-rays for Xmas/Birthday Happy Days!!!.. and Rolo you're never too old for a Game console------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 30-December-2008 at 14:43
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Have to agree to disagree Peter Problem for me would be finding the time. With all the other stuff I have going on I'd never get a minute,I mean with the gardening and all
Oh yeah, and can't see the young fellas letting me near theirs. Must say though,that PS3 is something else. |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 30-December-2008 at 15:29
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I hardly use my PS3 for gaming to be honest, but blu-ray is an awesome experience though. It's kinda hard to go back to DVD once you've started watching movies in high definition. Especially music or sports related blu-rays where there's a live crowd involved. Picked up a cheap 5.1 surround in Argos last year and have it hooked up to the PS3. Needless to say, our neighbours packed up and moved beside Cineworld Cinema in Parnell St as they claimed it was less noisy there.  ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 30-December-2008 at 15:31
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Oh I forgot I also got a deadly "Rainbow Rising" Tshirt and also the Tshirt I had on at reunion ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: muller
Date Posted: 30-December-2008 at 17:48
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I got new runners. I have hardly used them, yet. I keep telling myself that I'll get back into training tomorrow, I mean Mañana I also got a box set of 6 Pink Panther DVDs. They are classics ------------- Life is for living |
Posted By: Sister1
Date Posted: 30-December-2008 at 18:43
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I got three cds - Cure (4.13 dream), The Smiths best of and Morrissey Best of. Also got the box set of 'Steptoe and Son' - looking forward to that as remember watching this as a nipper. ------------- Keep it Local, Keep it Near! |
Posted By: Blondie
Date Posted: 02-January-2009 at 21:29
Lots of great pressies there. Got lots myself but by far the best one was a trip away for new years to a place called Alston up north as they say half way between Newcastle and Carlisle and about twenty miles from Scotland. Gorgeous little place nothing much in it except for about one church and seven pubs Beautiful walks and very close to the lakes too. We stayed in lovely little stone cottage which thankfully had great central heating as it was minus seven on new years eve !!!!!!!! anyway we had a great time unfortubately had to come home today as had to be in work  ------------- Blondie I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it ! |
Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 03-January-2009 at 03:32
| I got a clock I had seen ages ago and loved (the kids were keeping tabs all year apparently!). Ferg and I gave each other the trip to Malaysia as our Christmas present. I also got jewlery and girlie things..lovely! and a table top heater for the outdoor kitchen and some solar powered lanterns. |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 05-January-2009 at 00:15
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We bought a 32" LCD telly today for the "playroom" (our dining room normally). Works great with the XBOX!
------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 05-January-2009 at 01:28
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Mel, Make sure you switch the inout from TV to HDTV and use the extra cables! Use HD for all you can, trust me, when it comes to the 360 (or PS3 for that matter), it makes the world of difference. :D Of course, if you're using a later 360 with the HDMI connection, then ignore what i just said. ;) ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 05-January-2009 at 02:05
| Shawn that is a whole other language!! It's "Man" isn't it? |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 05-January-2009 at 09:38
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Mel I agree with Mel, use the HDMI connection if you can the quality is just excellent. I brought my PS3 down to Cassandra house for New Years(she has a 42inch HD TV) and the quality was something else. I am not big into all this HD Ready/Full HD malarky at all but after I saw the difference, even with standard DVDs the quality is much improved. I can't wait to get my TV when I get my apartment . Carol basically picture quality is better ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 05-January-2009 at 23:29
Hey Shawn, Erm, even though I have the Xbox 360 and the HD ready TV, I'm not really a techie. I just plonked the yellow, red and white leads from the XBOX into the slots on the side of the Telly - is that good or bad? ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 00:07
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Mel Thats good but go to Gamestop and get a HDMI cable for €10 and try that and you see the difference... Don't go to Power City or any electrical shop they cahrge you €90 for one and because its digital it the connection will make no difference... P ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 04:21
Ditch that piece of crap cable Mel, that's called a composite cable and it won't take advantage of your televisions Hi Def capabilities. And this begins: SHAWN RAVEN'S 360 TO HDTV GUIDE FOR THE NEWBIES (I refuse to say dummies, it's degrading) It should be noted as well BR (who's urging you to leg it out and buy a HDMI cable) that not all 360's have a HDMI connector. The black ones do, and some of the later white ones do, but the earlier white one's don't (mine is also lumped into that category). Now yer probably thinking "i only got mine over christmas", which is understandable, but the fact of the matter is, the earlier manufactured ones white are being offed by Microsoft at cut price as they're being replaced with the black Elite model with the 120GB drive. A HDMI connector will look like this and should be on the back of the xbox  If you're fortunate enough to have one of those at the back of the xbox, then congratuations, you can obtain full High Def resolution with that. The cable needs to be gotten seperately but a cheap 1 metre cable out of Argos or somewhere for a fiver will do the job, don't go near those monster cables from DID, for consoles, you really don't need to spend 75 euro on it. Now, if your 360 doesn't have that connector, there is still some hope to hook it up to a High Def television, using what's called a component connection, on the back of a television, will look something like this:  See the five round pin plugs at the right hand side? Your TV should have those, some TV's come with an adapter that converts the blue monitor connection to the orange/blue/green pins (my Sharp one did, whereas my Philips came built in. So if HDMI isn't an option, you can get a 360 cable that will plug into that. The image clarity won't be quite the same as it would be with HDMI, but it wouldn't be too far off either. That cable will look like this:  The chances are you already have it, in which case, disconnect the yellow part, hook up the orange, green and blue parts and flick the switch on the other side of the cable from TV to HDMI and enjoy. I realise this has gone completely techy and is probably a horrible post for some to read. I hope it helps you out Mel, and if you've any questions, by all means, drop me a Private Message and i should be able to get ya running if this post fails. ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 10:52
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Great stuff Shaun, really well thought out and presented.Should be a massive help to everyone, fair play. Now .............if only I gave a Monkey's |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 12:24
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Didn't know the early XBOX 360 didn't have the HDMI connection, learn something new everyday... Shaun can you get HDMI to component connection ??? and what would the quality be like ?? My TV is LCD but not HD and was just wondering ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 12:56
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Hi Peter, My Philips Plasma in the front room isn't true HD either, and it's going through component. The 360 does a pretty decent job upscaling it to 1080i (better job than the PS3 does actually because the PS3 tends to look a little blurry upscaled via component but that could just be my television too). You can get the adapters, but it will still look like component. You're probably better off going into Game and getting one of their component cables for about 8 euro and using that instead for the time being as the PS3 may or may not pick up the signal properly with it, i never tried it so i can't give a definite answer with it. I know i play blu-rays on it and it's crystal clear on the plasma, but GTA IV looks less than spectacular on it, so it could also be that specific game too as a lot of the games written for the PS3 were done in 720p anyway as opposed to 1080p (for reasons that only god knows!) So yeah, if your LCD has the component input, i'd use that over a HDMI adapter, but that's just me, it saved me a rake of hassle. ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: joey the lips
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 13:24
 ,i am confused man ------------- You can checkout anytime u like but u can never leave |
Posted By: grainne_witch
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 17:00
| Only confused now Joey??? Well done!! |
Posted By: grainne_witch
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 17:01
| One thing I got at Christmas that made me laugh was a 'to do' note pad. It has a picture of a 1950's style woman with her arms in the air and it says HOORAY! One more job to do and it's gin and tonic time! |
Posted By: grainne_witch
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 17:03
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Another little wooden plaque that says If God had meant me to touch my toes He'd have put them on my knees! The friend who gave me that said the minute she saw it she thought of me?? Don't know what to make of that! |
Posted By: Evangeline
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 17:41
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Bit of a backhanded compliment that, Grainne. Jen
------------- "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!" |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 23:11
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Shaun and Peter, Thanks lads for the assistance - Shaun, checked the back of the Xbox console and found a nice and shiny HDMI port on the back of it. So, just take out the regular A/V cable from the back of the console and TV and then get a HDMI cable to connect XBox to TV and I'm good to go? Right?  ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 06-January-2009 at 23:44
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Congratulations! Welcome to the world of High Def! HDMI will transfer picture and sound, so that's all you'll need. Then go into the consoles settings and change the resolution to 1080p (provided your TV will allow it, failing that, set it to 1080i). Then yer suckin' diesel, as some would say. :) ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 07-January-2009 at 01:03
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Thanks again! Appreciate it.
------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: ShortHairHippie
Date Posted: 07-January-2009 at 01:10
VOODOO  ------------- upon us all,a little rain must fall |
Posted By: DAYO
Date Posted: 07-January-2009 at 13:37
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[QUOTE=grainne_witch]
If God had meant me to touch my toes He'd have put them on my knees! The best one liner I heard this year LOL ------------- Dayo Grov'in 70 - 76 |
Posted By: Blondie
Date Posted: 07-January-2009 at 23:33
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Jeez lads far too much technical stuff there I find Mel a friendly call to someone who does understand all that and they'll come and do it for u does the trick for me everytime Mummmmm Grainne not sure about that wooden plaque girl how good a friend is she ??????????? ------------- Blondie I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it ! |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 08-January-2009 at 00:45
Not all of us are available for the three mile camel hike to NCD though ;) < id="kpfLog" src="http://127.0.0.1:44501/pl.?START_LOG" onload="destroy(this)" style="display: none;"> < ="text/"> < id="kpfLog" src="http://127.0.0.1:44501/pl.?START_LOG" onload="destroy(this)" style="display: none;"> < ="text/"> ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Blondie
Date Posted: 08-January-2009 at 12:33
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Ah but I dont live in NCD Shaun ------------- Blondie I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it ! |
Posted By: DAYO
Date Posted: 08-January-2009 at 13:37
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You tell him Joan ha ha ------------- Dayo Grov'in 70 - 76 |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 08-January-2009 at 14:06
I never said ya did, Joan ;) < id="kpfLog" src="http://127.0.0.1:44501/pl.?START_LOG" onload="destroy(this)" style="display: none;"> < ="text/"> ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 08-January-2009 at 23:54
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Just waiting for my HDMI cable to arrive (hopefully tomorrow) from e-bay (about €8 incl. shipping). Then its High Definition all the way baby!
------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 11-January-2009 at 14:07
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I got sunshine and blue skies
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 11-January-2009 at 18:50
Pat we got sunshine and blue skies too.....but they came with a price, it was -0 most nights as low as -6 in some parts of the midlands.........brrrrrrr so cold. 
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 11-January-2009 at 19:42
Err Powercity has them for €7.99 Gamestop has them for €9.99 ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: ShortHairHippie
Date Posted: 11-January-2009 at 19:54
welcome back Biker Pat ------------- upon us all,a little rain must fall |
Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 12-January-2009 at 07:52
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Lucky you ------------- THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BUT IT'LL PISS YOU OFF FIRST |
Posted By: grainne_witch
Date Posted: 12-January-2009 at 22:42
| Gary are you really the only gay in the village?????????? |
Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 13-January-2009 at 08:04
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Yeh, no, yeh, no, I mean, yeh, no it was him, like , yeh no , yeh, no yeh no ------------- THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BUT IT'LL PISS YOU OFF FIRST |
Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 13-January-2009 at 14:03
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I got the best presents this year. Along with the usual jewellery ( I picked it myself so I knew I'd get something decent) Singstar with TWO microphones to sing all my ABBA songs. And the best present by far was 3 cd's - Abba, Barry Manilow and AC/DC. How cool is that. What a fab surprise I got when I opened it. The nicest gift I got in years. Thanks Santa xxx ------------- Lesley 25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car. Grove 1980-1984 |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 14-January-2009 at 00:21
Its certainly an interesting mix Lesley! ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: DAYO
Date Posted: 14-January-2009 at 13:52
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Barry who ????? ------------- Dayo Grov'in 70 - 76 |
Posted By: maryi
Date Posted: 14-January-2009 at 15:34
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Welcom back Biker Pat - Glad you got away and had a great time. Lesley, Try mixing Barry with AC/DC - should be an improvement ------------- mary |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 14-January-2009 at 16:06
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Better Plan................how about we mix Barry with 2 Kilos of Semtex |
Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 15-January-2009 at 12:44
Mary I think your being a bit previous there. Pat isn't back till March. I think he just got to a PC ------------- THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BUT IT'LL PISS YOU OFF FIRST |
Posted By: Evangeline
Date Posted: 16-January-2009 at 19:51
And throw in C De B for good measure! Jen ------------- "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!" |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 18-January-2009 at 04:56
And Johnny Depp while you're at it, just for extra added thickness! :D < ="text/"> ------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Evangeline
Date Posted: 18-January-2009 at 20:03
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Oh you just had to go and say that didn't you? Jen ------------- "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!" |
Posted By: ShawnRaven
Date Posted: 19-January-2009 at 10:01
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Yep... and that was me being nice to the guy and all! ;)
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------------- "I don't need this, I'm not even supposed to be here today!" |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 19-January-2009 at 11:00
Leave our Johnny alone 
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 21-January-2009 at 13:07
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Nice mix of above. I could drool over a poster of Johnny, headbang to AC/DC and swoon over oul Barry too. (Rolo, you're copies of oul barry are on the way, stop pestering me)  ------------- Lesley 25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car. Grove 1980-1984 |