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Topic: What would you miss most if you lived abr
Posted By: Robbie63
Subject: What would you miss most if you lived abr
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 08:15
There seems to be quite a few ex grovers living abroad. What do you miss most about Ireland and for those of you still at home, what do you think you would miss most.
I might as well start with myself. I´ve been abroad for the past 12 years and what I miss most is the music of Ireland. The fact that you can go out seven nights a week in Dublin and hear good quality live music, be it rock, pop, blues, jazz or folk. I took all that for granted when I was back home.
Oh yeah, and a decent pint of Guinness.
------------- Robbie
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Posted By: whippersnapper
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 08:29
Can't really imagine living abroad - I spent about six months on the southside with a mate and nearly got homesick. I think I'd just miss the feeling of knowing everything and having grown up in a place and feeling that I have this connection even with total strangers because we're from the same neck of the woods (even though chances are they're not!)
I was asked by HR once whether I would be interested in working abroad and my exact response nearly gave my boss premature heart attack - "I live on the Northside, I work on the Southside, I think that's enough travel for one man"
But I would miss the good pint. Right about that.
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Posted By: muller
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 08:44
When I lived in South Africa what I missed most was the sea. The nearest beach was 600kms away. I also missed family and friends but we made so many new friends whom we met at barbeques and other social occassions. It's unlike Ireland where nearly all the socialising revolves around the pub.
On the plus side we had a great time. the weather was excellent, golf all year round and a beautiful pool and garden. Servants doing all the tasks we abhor. Travelling to see interesting places.
It's great to be back though and enjoying the Grove reunions.
------------- Life is for living
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Posted By: Trixie
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 09:14
hmmm....what would put me off moving abroad....well, first and foremost, my immediate family and friends - it would be very unusual for me not to have spoken to parents and siblings at least once a day! (I kid you not!) - we're very close, so to not be able to see them regularly would be a major culture shock for me! Also, couldn't bring my beloved animals with me (well, unless I wanted to put them in quarantine!) - they're an extension of the family anyway!
I love the size of Ireland, the fact that you're never really too far from anything, be it the sea, countryside, city etc....and on a "food" aspect of things I'd really miss my Superquinn Smoked Rashers, a nice cuppa cha, Cadburys chocolate and King Crisps!!!!!! 
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Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 09:18
Potatos .............I would miss a good boiled spud. Hate when you go away and with dinner you get chips and salad and if you ask for a potato you are given a roasted one
Bewleys tea...........I need my fix of about 4/5 cups a day
"Gift Grub" on Ian Dempsey show on Today FM......love listening to gift grub every morning, cos it make me laugh and what better way to start your day off.
Blanchardstown Centre.........It's like my second home, when I need time out of the house it's great to wander around the shops and spend some money 
Family and friends..........don't need to say anymore here
The grove reunions........love the fact that I can act like a 16yr old again, and for a few hours step out of mammy mode 
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Posted By: Stoner
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 11:01
Ive lived abroad since I was 19 and have always missed a decent pint of Guiness. No matter where Ive lived Ive never had as good a pint as you get in Ollies pub in Puckane Tipperary. I also used to miss a decent cup of tea, my mam and inlaws would always smuggle over some Barrys for me until I discovered that a shop up the road actually sells them, be it a little bit more expensive but worth the extra cost. Missing family and friends goes without saying of course. Would prefer the Perth summer to a Dublin one though.
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Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 15:25
I have lived in Australia for 19 years and the thing I miss most about Ireland is the easy way people chat to eachother just because they are in your "space" for a while, like at the bus stop, a queue in the shops or wherever.
I miss having my family around for special occasions like Christmas or birthdays and I would love to be able to pop in for a coffee and chat now and then but I DONT miss the external interferance that comes with family living close to you when things are not going too well. There were many times I was really glad we were this far away and they didn't have to know so couldn't get involved.
I miss having a relationship with my nieces and nephews who were all born years after I left.
I missed my kids not having aunts and uncles, grannies and grandads and cousins as part of their immediate lives.
I do still miss a good pork sausage.
I used to miss Hellmans mayonaise til they brought it in here.
Dont shoot me for this but I think if I had to leave Australia and go back to live in Ireland there is much more I would miss about Australia than I ever did about Ireland. I realised this when Grainne told me she was moving "home". I had no difficulty getting on a plane and emigrating to Australia back then - none at all apart from the snots and dribbles at the airport as we were leaving family. But I remember putting myself in Grainnes shoes that day she told me and feeling that I would be quite devestated to leave Australia.
I was always a bit of a gypsy and independant anyway. I left home at 18 in Ireland and moved into a flat on the south side initially with a friend from the country- back then NOBODY left home unless it was to find work in a different town or to get married.
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Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 17:14
I have lived abroad since 1994.
I did return for 3 years in 2000 but then headed away ( happily ) again as most of you know.
I do miss the odd sausage ( pork variety ) like Carol and I do miss Cadburys chocolate. I miss Superquinn and I miss my walks in Howth.
I live abroad not because of a major wanderlust or because I can´t stand Ireland ( it surprises me that some people consider it is a factor in me being away )....it was never a case of a .."I can´t wait to get outa here ", thing.
I live abroad cos the hubbies work takes him abroad and his dual nationality is a strong factor in his gypsy tendancies. I married into that and was happy to do so. I always knew we would be heading Spain or South America way..
Like Carol, there is probably more positives for me living abroad than there are living in Ireland. That is just the way it is.
Could analyse the whole thing and debate about this and that and do the whole SWOT analysis but what´s the point ??.
For me HOME is where the heart is and the heart is where my hubbie is so I will follow him and support him gladly. All else is secondary.
Of course I miss my family, they won´t be able to visit as frequently as they have been doing BUT I am independent and like Carol the " distance " thing suits me quite well. I very much like doing my own thing and always have so this life suits me.
My family is my husband, my three kids and my dog. End of story. That is who I want to be with, whatever country, where ever life takes us.
I do think about the children and how by going to Mexico means they will see less of their cousins. Luckily for me quite a few now are heading towards and beyond the Leaving Cert age so I predict we will have many visits. Skype and the Webcam help enormously too...not to be underestimated. Frequent communication is possible and that means alot.
I do have a dream of one day having my own wee place in West Cork and I would love, when the kids are at work or Uni or whatever that I could spend half the year there and the balance in my permanent home whereever that might be then.....all in the future...could do with a crystal ball sometimes !!.
A lot of people at home think the grass is greener elsewhere and then when they get there, the grass suddenly becomes greener at home. I was glad of the opportunity to come home in 2000 because I was feeling just like that. NOW...it is out of my system..came home but was happy and excited to leave for foreign parts again...and am still happy.
That is my tuppence worth.
Don´t shoot me either....
Mins.
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Posted By: eejit91
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 17:58
I have been in the US since 1993! I was so homesick for the best part of 10 years but I know our life is better here so I stuck with it.
If my Mother was still alive I would certainly have moved back and I have no doubt about that at all. I will never forget the day I left and seeing my Mother through the little window as I walked away!!!!! Yuck I never want to go through that again.
I miss my family so much. I generally miss "the land" and the culture. I love meeting Irish people as they have a great ability to laugh and share a joke, what a great place to grow up. I will never ever let go of Ireland and it's my home forever. I feel Irish from the inside out.
I will never forget going home a few years back and spending the long Paddy's weekend in Achill Island. Well on Paddy's day we woke up to the marching band going up the Island. That night we headed off to the pub actually called "The Pub". The craic was mighty. Leaving the pub at about 12 or 1 who do we meet on the road but "The marching band" still going hard at it.
Ah Ireland where the hell would you get it only Ireland - I love it.
I love going home and walking into the local and knowing all the folk sitting at the bar just where I left them all those years ago. I love the nod and the greeting of “How are ya Teresa, home again for a visit”… I blend in just like I never left. I get a hug off every one of them young and old when I am leaving and again the sad goodbye of “Don’t worry Teresa sure you’ll be home again soon”…
Ah feck it yis have me crying now...
But Columbus, Ohio is home away from home now and I love the many friends we have made.
Oh yeah! Thank the lord above for Fado's as that is where we pick up our Irish sausies and rashers. Our Tayto cheese and onion and my sweets if I can get any before Tom the manager eats them all. They give the lads their bar of Cadbury chocolate every Saturday when we go in for our pint. No charge on the sweets!!! I love the damn chip sticks also.... We have met such a bunch of Irish lads over there.
The Grove website has really put my homesickness at bay especially meeting so many of us far away from home!
Bless your cotton socks
------------- "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better."
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Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 20:03
We lived in Belgium for 4 1/2 years and really liked it but always knew we would be coming home. I loved the accessibility of Europe we could drive anywhere. Which we did a fair bit. I would not have lioked to stay there for good - Brussels was not that sort of place. We missed being by the sea. we came back in 1990 and settled back into Dublin, Then we moved to Kilkenny in 1998 (July) No way would I want to go back to Dublin now Sometimes when I am in Dublin I feel old because of all the changes going on old buildings torn down or closed down. I have found people here are friendly and welcoming. I like going to my local and knowing the faces. I like when I leave work I can be home in 5-6 minutes or downtown in the same amount of time
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Posted By: WACKER
Date Posted: 02-August-2007 at 23:07
I think i would miss the low wages,high tax,house prices ...ect.
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Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 03-August-2007 at 00:22
Being a total creature of habit, I think I'd just miss my settled surroundings...was a wrench to move out of the folks house in the first place! 
------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick).
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Posted By: freebird
Date Posted: 03-August-2007 at 09:49
I have been living abroad since I was about 24 and it's been nearly 10 years since I have been back to Dublin.
Off the top of my head what I miss most is the humour, Irish turn of phrase, the cliff walk in Howth, proper brown bread and a decent cup of tea and last but not least my glass of Guinness!
I love living in Perth, however home is really where my family is. I am lucky, of the four kids in the family three of us are here plus my Dad. My kids have their Grandad, Cousins Aunts and Uncles within walking distance of our house
As I don't have the ‘Family home” in Dublin anymore I have no major pull back to Ireland. In my case Hubby is from Colorado so the ties are to there where his family still live.
Discovering this site has been a brilliant link with Dublin it has given me a connection with the the day to day goings on, many a time you guys have had me in a heap laughing with your sharp wit and great humour. If I try and explain it to anyone here they think I have gone gaga - Thanks all
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Posted By: grainne_witch
Date Posted: 03-August-2007 at 12:04
I lived in Sydney for 14 years and the things I missed most were - my family of course. With 5 sisters it is a lot to miss! I missed pork sausages and apple tart. You can't get cooking apples in Australia and so apple tarts never tasted tarty!!
What I've enjoyed most since coming back to Ireland is the wit of Irish people particularly the Dubs. You can't beat it. I also enjoy the seasons - particularly Spring no point talking about Summer but I remember once when we had one I really enjoyed it!!
And I have to say I find the physical country of Ireland so calming and good for the soul. I loved Australia and still do but Ireland is my home.
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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 05-August-2007 at 12:12
I go to Thailand every December/January and when I'm there there's not a thing about Ireland that I miss, except some family of course.
I'm not sure whether I'd feel the same if I moved there permanently.
But I admire all you guys who have moved abroad for whatever reason.
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride.
Biker Pat
Grove 1972-1975
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Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 05-August-2007 at 16:27
Pat...how come you go to Thailand every year? Thailand is great! You'll have to pop over and visit us when you are there sometime.
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Posted By: Blondie
Date Posted: 05-August-2007 at 20:29
Well never went as far afield as u guys but spent 11 years in London and god missede loads of things about home dont know where to start.
Food ie tayto crisps irish sausages clonakilty pudding red lemonade chef sauce and could go on
friends and family are a given
Missed the sea / coast so much had to drive at least two hrs to get to the coast hated that.
never got to see my boys in blue
But if had to pick one thing over everything else would be the girly chats while queuing in the ladies toliets never know who u end up talking to and wot they would come out with but guarenteed to end up laughing.
Been home now for 12 years and would never go back luv being home
------------- Blondie
I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it !
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Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 06-August-2007 at 00:03
I miss going to to pub with friends. They don't do that here. It's all bbq's and going to peoples houses.
I love perth and I love the aussie weather and I never felt homesick much.
But I miss the proper brown bread from Dunnes. Tayto, King crisps. Easons. And definitely shops that open late. Shops close too early in Perth. Only late night shopping on thurs. No sunday trading!!!! yet!!!
Miss the craic with friends. But chatting to you guys definitely helps.
Apart from Dublin, Perth is a fantastic place to live.
But I can't wait to get home in sept. Looking forward to Harry's and the Castle and maybe a Tues night in Tamango's.
Jaysus, I'm homesick now!!!!!!!!!!   
------------- Lesley
25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car.
Grove 1980-1984
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Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 06-August-2007 at 04:25
Forgot about the brown bread Lesley!! When I come back each time from a trip to Ireland I have a spate of making it- must give you the recipe if you can be bothered :). But the sausages...have found a few close seconds but never quite the same! And yes..the bloody shops here..what is it with Aussies and not opening late or sundays??? AND they dont like day light saving!! I do like the long summer evenings.
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Posted By: Taylor
Date Posted: 06-August-2007 at 08:10
Lush green grass, fresh sea breeze, Marks & Spencer, Saturday afternoon strolls around town culminating with a few pints and long chats in old Dublin pubs with some old pals, North Dublin strands and Wicklow Hills
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Posted By: star
Date Posted: 06-August-2007 at 21:32
Mins wrote:
I have lived abroad since 1994.
I did return for 3 years in 2000 but then headed away ( happily ) again as most of you know.
I do miss the odd sausage ( pork variety ) like Carol and I do miss Cadburys chocolate. I miss Superquinn and I miss my walks in Howth.
I live abroad not because of a major wanderlust or because I can´t stand Ireland ( it surprises me that some people consider it is a factor in me being away )....it was never a case of a .."I can´t wait to get outa here ", thing.
I live abroad cos the hubbies work takes him abroad and his dual nationality is a strong factor in his gypsy tendancies. I married into that and was happy to do so. I always knew we would be heading Spain or South America way..
Like Carol, there is probably more positives for me living abroad than there are living in Ireland. That is just the way it is.
Could analyse the whole thing and debate about this and that and do the whole SWOT analysis but what´s the point ??.
For me HOME is where the heart is and the heart is where my hubbie is so I will follow him and support him gladly. All else is secondary.
Of course I miss my family, they won´t be able to visit as frequently as they have been doing BUT I am independent and like Carol the " distance " thing suits me quite well. I very much like doing my own thing and always have so this life suits me.
My family is my husband, my three kids and my dog. End of story. That is who I want to be with, whatever country, where ever life takes us.
I do think about the children and how by going to Mexico means they will see less of their cousins. Luckily for me quite a few now are heading towards and beyond the Leaving Cert age so I predict we will have many visits. Skype and the Webcam help enormously too...not to be underestimated. Frequent communication is possible and that means alot.
I do have a dream of one day having my own wee place in West Cork and I would love, when the kids are at work or Uni or whatever that I could spend half the year there and the balance in my permanent home whereever that might be then.....all in the future...could do with a crystal ball sometimes !!.
A lot of people at home think the grass is greener elsewhere and then when they get there, the grass suddenly becomes greener at home. I was glad of the opportunity to come home in 2000 because I was feeling just like that. NOW...it is out of my system..came home but was happy and excited to leave for foreign parts again...and am still happy.
That is my tuppence worth.
Don´t shoot me either....
Mins.
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I'm completely with Mins on this, I love the friendliness of Ireland but I think that is all to be honest. I wouldn't miss the weather one bit. And to be honest when we go on hols for the 2 weeks every year we dont even ring home more than once and that would be to say we got there safe.
I am really up for moving to Australia for a few years to try it out, think hubby is a bit of a home bird though and that is a bit crap for me. But i've told him that if he had to up sticks for a job I would go. However I wouldn't fancy England and am in two minds about the US what with all the classroom killings etc.
I am quite an independant person and dont like to "need" things or people but I do like to know that if I did "Need" someone that they would be there.
I think though having kids grandparents around is so important... but it prob wouldn't stop me if i got the chance for an adventure abroad.
------------- Never Again on a school night! Famous last words
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Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 07-August-2007 at 02:16
Forgot to add a garlic chicken kebab from Abrakebabra!!
------------- Lesley
25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car.
Grove 1980-1984
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Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 07-August-2007 at 04:19
Star if you end up coming to Perth you already have a support network built in!! 4 Grovers here!!
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Posted By: freebird
Date Posted: 07-August-2007 at 05:23
5 if you include my sister
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Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 07-August-2007 at 09:24
You probabely have fab chowder in Aus, great surf and turf in America, but do you have the
real Brown Bread and the Guinneass to go with it like in Joe may's Skerries.
I sat there on Saturday afternoon looking out at the harbour in heaven. Went on the bus so I could enjoy a few pints of the black stuff without the worry of the car. It's amazing what you can see from the top of a bus that you miss when your driving.
Bad weather has some advantages !!!!
------------- THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BUT IT'LL PISS YOU OFF FIRST
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Posted By: star
Date Posted: 07-August-2007 at 09:58
Caroloz wrote:
Star if you end up coming to Perth you already have a support network built in!! 4 Grovers here!! |
I'll mail you before I arrive Lol!
------------- Never Again on a school night! Famous last words
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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 07-August-2007 at 10:26
Caroloz wrote:
Pat...how come you go to Thailand every year? Thailand is great! You'll have to pop over and visit us when you are there sometime. |
Have been going there for years. Just love the laid back buzz of the place, the food, weather, prices, being able to hear old classic rock and the people are lovely.
Then I met my wife Puy in Wales and she happens to be Thai so that is another factor for going there.
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride.
Biker Pat
Grove 1972-1975
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Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 07-August-2007 at 12:33
You'll have to add on Perth to your next trip to Thailand.
------------- Lesley
25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car.
Grove 1980-1984
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Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 07-August-2007 at 13:43
Hey Pat
I saw your beautiful wife Puy in the Sheeling.
You luckey man.
------------- THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BUT IT'LL PISS YOU OFF FIRST
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Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 07-August-2007 at 16:08
Yes Pat..you'll have to pop over and visit us!
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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 08-August-2007 at 17:52
I hope to visit Oz at some stage. Have a friend in Adelaide but never got further than Thailand 
Would love to see you all in Perth at some stage.
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride.
Biker Pat
Grove 1972-1975
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Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 08-August-2007 at 17:58
Well Pat you'd be more than welcome and I always have spare beds here! So dont put it on the long finger!
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Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 20-August-2007 at 12:44
This is a fantastic topic, nice one Rob and fascinating to read the stuff from those of you living away.
Sad and all as it sounds I'm with 'Snapper on this one. Don't think I could live anywhere else but the Northside of Dublin. Having been here for so long now we've built up a real big social thing and I don't I could really enjoy life properly without it. For me that's the big thing.
Think that a house is a house, ya can only sleep in one scratcher regardless of the size of your bedroom etc. and that other stuff is far more important.
The kids are happy here, family is all here etc. so moving now would not be an option.
Having spent the guts of three weeks with our friends who moved to Perth last year I can see the attarctions though. Really lovely city, very relaxed atmosphere and full of friendly people, although like the girls said, social life does seem to be centred on BBQs in peoples gardens rather than in the boozer, which is something I would find really difficult to cope with.
Really admire the way you lot,Teresa,Mins,Carol,Mary,Lesley,Donal and Rob etc. have done your thing though and reckon that I would have loved to have had the cojones to do it years ago before we got settled.
Too late now though.
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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 09-September-2007 at 18:44
My dream is to spend some of the winter months in Thailand and the rest here.
I understand Rolo's point. I like Ireland a lot and am not sure I could sever my connections with Ireland full time.
But that could change 
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride.
Biker Pat
Grove 1972-1975
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Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 10-September-2007 at 05:11
Pat I watched a DVD on Thailand last night, a cooking DVD, and decided that has to be my next place to fully explore. I have been to Bang Kok and Phuket but really thats like saying you know Ireland cos you have been to Dublin and Wexford! So northern Thailand is definitely on my future travel plans...looks stunning!
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