Grove documentary - compilation CD
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Topic: Grove documentary - compilation CD
Posted By: Biker Pat
Subject: Grove documentary - compilation CD
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:21
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Don't know if this is a runner. Would it be possible to produce a CD of the music in the Grove documentary. We could then give the proceeds to a charity/hospital etc.. Seeing as 290,000 people tuned into the documentary, if even half the people who tuned in bought the CD, a lot of money could be raised. It would certainly get in the charts. Just a thought
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
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Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:28
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Sounds like a great idea Pat....and would be a great stocking filler for christmas.
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:31
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Reckon the Copyright Police would have something to say about that,unfortunately. Rolo. |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:37
You may be right Rolo but there's been compilations out before so there must be a way round that. No doubt there'd be a cost but the sales I imagine would cover that.
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Rolo wrote:Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:44
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Yeah, often wondered what the cut off point was. I mean how much royalties do song owners charge for something like that. Reckon there's a flat fee, followed by a percentage of sales revenue or something. Anyone got any ideas ? Just on that, you know that RTE Programme " Reeling in The Years ". Well I think that's magic. I contacted RTE and asked if they would ever be putting it out on DVD and they said that the copyright royalties for the music and the clips would make it impossible. Pity,'cos it's a great series. Rolo.
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Posted By: eejit91
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:47
I have an idea we could get Noodles to compose a song dedicated to the Grove! I think that would be a seller!!!!! ------------- "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better." |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:52
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Ah yeah T, but who would sing it ? Rolo. |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:54
We all will. We'll call ourselves GROVE AID
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: eejit91
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:55
No the Elite Eight! ------------- "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better." |
Posted By: eejit91
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:56
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And we'll call the song "Hopelessly addicted to you"... ------------- "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better." |
Posted By: Noodles
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 13:59
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Right, I'm on it. Give us a couple of days. Noodles. |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:01
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Hey hey T. Naughty ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: 1981-1985
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:06
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a trriple CD - each representing a decade, each beginning and ending with the most common opening and closing songs of that period, each with a couple of slow sets and pref. featuring some of the more obsure artists (they may need the royalties - e.g. Will You, Alternative Ulster (others?) are timeless Grove classics, and unike e.g. the Stones, they prob. don't have too much money these days... re: royalties - have to be paid, no question, but may be less of a problem for a relativly limited release in a (ahem!) minor market like Ireland (?). but why stop w/ a CD compilation? why not a movie? Imagine... (Hollywood pitch hat on) a coming of age movie about a group of northsiders (remember the Commitments!) set in the early 80s (OK - so I'm not being too objective) against the back-drop of fragmenting musical genres, slow-burn sexual revolution, mass-emigration Imagine... imagine the Grove as a decade long "American Wake"... in todays post-Tiger, consumer-"heaven", its easy to forget that we all thought that even if the Irish branch of CND didn't stop the eventual US/USSR nuclear holocost, most us us would prob. still have to leave the country... Imagine... a kinda "Big Wenesday" or "Big Chill" reunion years later... Few societies have gone through the change ours has - few have the stories or charecters... ------------- Lizzy Fan |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:11
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Think this movie is already in production, 81-85. Cecil mentioned something about it, think it's called 32A. He mentioned that he has a small part in it. Rolo. |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:13
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Is this movie....32A ....gonna be a tv movie or released in the pictures ? anyone know?
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: 1981-1985
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:15
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cool - love the name - does it start in the Nep and end in Macari's? ------------- Lizzy Fan |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:16
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Not far off,as far as I know ( and that's not a lot.) Supposed to be about three teenage girls from The Northside and growing up etc.,etc. Think The Grove gets a mention,hence Cecil's involvement. Rolo. |
Posted By: xgrovehead
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:17
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Its a Hollywood thing Bluebell - Aidan Quinn is in it, and his sister Marion is the Director. Doubt it'll make the cinemas tho, maybe a straight to DVD, with a limited showing in the Screen and IFI??? And re a singer for Noodles charity number - Star belts out a fine tune, Blondie and I went very quiet beside her at the preview when she was singing along to Choirgirls Bohemian Rhapsody! She certainly put my warbling to shame! (which wouldn't be hard) Re the CD suggestion - Pat its a good one and I like 81/85 format idea, but i think the copyright will kill it. Didn't someone mention that RTE have canned the doc DVD idea coz of the copyright issues on the music? ------------- We have not inherited the earth from our ancestors, we have only borrowed it from our children. -Ancient Proverb. |
Posted By: 1981-1985
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:19
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here it is - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370242/ - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370242/ ------------- Lizzy Fan |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:20
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Excellent Xgh. Forgot about Star's singing ability. Was worried yiz might ask me. Back to work, See yiz. Rolo. |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:23
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I read a book a few years ago about 3 girls growing up in Dublin and
for a short while they went to the grove on a Sat night....wonder if
this was the inspiration for the movie....must go and see if I can root
the book out....it was written by a irish author (can't remember her
name though)
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: 1981-1985
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:32
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"Plot Outline: Although 32A is a Dublin bus route, the story is about a teenager who comes "of age" in 1979." I hope it not just another "personal" coming of age - suspect so, as '79 was before the s**t really hit the fan in the mid-80s. If so, a pity, as I would expect Aiden Quinn (who was in "Michael Collins") to be a bit more aware of the need / story-telling value in also covering the "big picture" (I don;t blame him for Michael Collins being so confusing - should been a mini-series to do any justice to the factions etc.). ------------- Lizzy Fan |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 14:40
You sure that's not your own lifestory dear..?  ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 22:27
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I still think the music from the documentary would be a huge seller. What a collection of sounds. One CD with a lot of great music together. As Bluebell stated what a Christmas CD to get. If for charity maybe the artists would forego the royalties. Maybe I'm a dreamer but........... ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Noodles
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 17:49
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Just for You Teresa............................ Hopelessly addicted to you ( With apologies to Olivia ) Guess mine is not the first sad story My friends are not the first to say What’s the big attraction that keeps you Logged on to that site all day. Reckon they just don’t get it Reckon they don’t have a clue But someday they’ll see What the Grove meant to me, ‘cos I’m hopelessly addicted to you. But…now, there’s naught left to do ‘cept to log on to you This sure wrecks my head ‘cos I’m Hopelessly addicted to you Hopelessly addicted to you My mates are saying , you’re a gobsh*te They think I’ve gone round the bend Maybe they’re right, Sure, I’m here every night, ‘cos I’m Hoplessly addicted to you. Still…now, there’s naught left to do ‘cept to log on to you This sure wrecks my head ‘cos I’m Hopelessly addicted to you Hopelessly addicted to you
© Noodles September 2006. |
Posted By: eejit91
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 19:27
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Eh Russ can you add music to this please and I'll make a recording!!!! Think it's definitely time for me to go now that theres a song dedicated to me!!!!!
------------- "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better." |
....Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 19:34
Cracking song Noodles!!  ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Kay Fagan
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 22:38
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Noodles well done
------------- Kay Fagan |
Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 19-October-2006 at 15:58
Actually I could Teresa could make it a jazzy little number ...Ian get some riffs going there ------------- Russ |
Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 19-October-2006 at 16:00
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Well done Noodles
------------- Russ |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 20-October-2006 at 22:08
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Noodles....your talant is wasted here...I reckon you could write a book
with all your songs/poems and even memories from the grove years.....if
RTE won't release the dvd of the grove cos of copy right...then you
could write the book about it instead....would be a no1 seller
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: freebird
Date Posted: 24-April-2007 at 15:49
Only just saw this post - great poem Noodles |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 24-April-2007 at 17:14
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Yeah guys, just wondering has anyone spotted Noodles around here in a while. Seems like ages since we had one of his verses. |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 25-April-2007 at 00:31
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have to agree with you Rolo......we miss Noodles and his verses around here...........come back Noodles we miss you
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 25-April-2007 at 05:22
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Maybe Noodles is off having fun somewhere without us!!!!!!!!! ------------- Lesley 25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car. Grove 1980-1984 |
Posted By: Stoner
Date Posted: 07-May-2007 at 06:48
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I was just wondering if it was possible to get hold of a copy of the documentary somewhere as I'd love to see it. My best memories of growing up are being at the Grove and I'd love to show my wife (country girl that she is) what all the hype was about. I'd love to hear if anyone knows where I can get a copy. ------------- Impotence; nature's way of saying no hard feelings! 
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Posted By: 1981-1985
Date Posted: 07-May-2007 at 08:34
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Hi Donal - you can find the documentary online. it can be downloaded via bit torrent at: http://www.torrentreactor.net/view.php?id=593300 - http://www.torrentreactor.net/view.php?id=593300 you may need to install a divx codec and this can be found here: http://www.xvidmovies.com/codec/ - http://www.xvidmovies.com/codec/ I takes a few hours to download - even on broadband - BUT IT IS WORTH IT! ------------- Lizzy Fan |
Posted By: Stoner
Date Posted: 07-May-2007 at 09:02
Thanks Lizzy Fan, I'll give that a crack and see how I go. Really looking forward to seeing it.  ------------- Impotence; nature's way of saying no hard feelings!
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Posted By: freebird
Date Posted: 07-May-2007 at 09:05
| donal I have a copy of the DVD if the download doesnt work just PM me |
Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 31-May-2007 at 17:47
| Freebird Donal copied your copy for me - we must be breaking every copyright law there is eh? but I have had the BEST evening reminising and had all the same emotions again with each song that was played, could remember the people, the fellas I fancied at the time...everything. Now am wondering where they all are. I phoned my oldest friend in Ireland, we have remained best friends since we were 15 and put her onto the website too..she is very excited. She said she was at the reunion that Cecil was at (not sure if its the one on the DVD or if he went to many after that). I'd love to go to one of the Dublin ones, would you?> |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 31-May-2007 at 18:19
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Carol, Cecil has been at all the Reunions in The Shieling. First one, I think ( Crusty ????) was Christmas,2004 I think and then Easter, Summer, Halloween and Christmas,2005 and same for 2006. Have ya checked out the photo gallery link on the Home Page...........we're all in there somewhere |
Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 31-May-2007 at 18:56
| Rolo I did check it out and can't recognise anyone!! scary. I noticed on the DVD my grove generation wasn't represented :(...was hoping to see my first love :) |
Posted By: verh
Date Posted: 31-May-2007 at 19:42
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Carol, Who was it - will try & see if anyone knows just what he missed. V ------------- Verona |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 31-May-2007 at 21:30
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I agree, and I mentioned this on another thread some time back, Caroloz, re the documentary. Although I loved the documentary and have watched it about 5 times now, I was disappointed that my generation wasnt shown either (80-86 or so). They showed the change from the old Grove to St. Pauls, then a brief mention of Pauls, and then jumped, I think, to the late 80s. I wonder is there any unseen footage that didnt make the final programme? Maybe RTE will release a special 2 disc DVD set with all the "extras"??? ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 01-June-2007 at 04:19
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Ah now Ver I can't give out his name on a website in case the others are reading it and realise it wasn't them!! Brunswick I watched the DVD twice in a row last night...loved every minute of it and scoured the room in slow motion at the reunion but couldn't see anyone I knew - didn't matter as every face and name came back to me just listening to the background music and seeing the old place again (St Pauls). Now if anyone from my era (77- 80) is reading...did you all know about the compound?? I didn't...and I spoke to my friend last night and she didn't know it existed either so I am wondering if that came about in the late 80's? From my memory the bouncers would pace the grounds making sure we were all behaving...or nobody just bothered inviting me to the compound |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 01-June-2007 at 09:09
I went to the grove around same time and Knew nothing of the Compound. Suspect that it came after our time. ------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 01-June-2007 at 14:31
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Hi everyone As I said I spent last night watching the Grove DVD twice in a row and was moved beyond imagination at the memories that came flooding back and the realisation that we were a really priveledged bunch to have that available to us. Anyway today on my way to work - listening to the Grove tracks CD (thanks again Donal) I thought I would really like to write to Cecil and pay tribute to what he provided us with. Does anyone know of some way I can do that? email? email somebody here who can pass it on? etc etc. |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 01-June-2007 at 16:06
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Carol...Crusty sees him on occasion-not too often. But if you like you can PM me or anyone else going to the re-union and send it to us - will gladly give it to the great man on the night... ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 01-June-2007 at 17:11
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Thanks Floydman I have arranged that with muller since. |
Posted By: Grovegirl
Date Posted: 02-July-2007 at 17:44
| Seems I'm the same Grove era as you, Caroloz...Dont worry, I was never invited to the Compound either but,as you say, maybe it hadn'nt been invented yet....I only remember being on the stage . Do you remember those masses of moving duffle coats? And dont forget the Alcove! |
Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 02-July-2007 at 18:32
| Hi Grovegirl, yes we were there at the same time. I dont recognise your name though. I think the compound only came in later but even if it was there in our day Id have stuck to the alcove! it wasn't cold and raining there!! |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 02-July-2007 at 23:13
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The compound was the grassy/gravelly area outside the exit doors in the corridor (think there was two doors out into it). People used to wander out into it during the summer evenings for air, and just relax (I thought!!) - there was always couples together out there but I didnt realise (until I visited this site/saw the documentary) that the compound had "such" a reputation....like yourselves, Grovegirl and Caroloz, always much more familiar with the coats and corner of the stage... ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: RoundaboutToo!
Date Posted: 02-July-2007 at 23:48
the compound wasn't there in my time! amazing though you could leave your duffle coat up on the stage with dozens of others and still find it easily at the end of the night. Occasionally did find some people happily asleep under them too! anyone have an Afghan coat? CP |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 02-July-2007 at 23:57
I did. When I went down though, Afghan coats werent really around much at all and I always felt sorta self-conscious wearing it (not to mention that it was always roasting in it).  ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: serendippittyms
Date Posted: 03-July-2007 at 19:55
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its good to know im not the only one here that dont remember the compound.never eard of it.,twas just in the door ,up the stage or on the floor(watch out for low flying hair) or down the back where all was black..or down the corridor for munchies..kit kat and coke all round,that was it i think..,there was the loos but funnily enuff dont remember them at all..,mustnt have wanted to miss one single song! ------------- i will always remember the days climbing down the gutter pathouli scented card in hand standing in q underage lynard floating thro the air dont leave me here,wonderful days,many haze,mama wondering where u dare,forget today i wudnt dare,up d grove!la vita e bella..... |